We build outer CF slides for all manufacturers. Having a contiguous material enables the slide to vibrate as one and provides amazing response and slotting. Quantity: Decrease Quantity: Increase Quantity: Price: $995.00 Subtotal: Add to Cart. – Treatment: It seems to like to be dry, because whenever I add any of the (recommended) Yamaha lubricant to it, it incrementally slows down – which takes away from the superior slide speed. A complete Bach 50 slide is $1,800. Cork barrels and curved brace are nickel silver and are polished with an un-lacquered finish. Although it isn’t the most popular type of trombone used today, it can still be found in some jazz and orchestral settings. Shires handslides is drawn in house, to precise tolerances. None whatsoever, not even low Bs/Cs/Fs/Es where a third of the trombone is carbon. A PBone slide weighs in at 132 grams and a standard Conn 6h outer slide weighs a whopping 242 grams. We can also make a complete hand slide for the Bach 50 bass trombone. Trombone Handslides. Oh yeah, you can’t dent them either! This is true because of the length and close tolerances of the slide as I just mentioned, but also because of the types of lubricants most trombonists use. Shires trombones. Check out the Butler trombones, they are incredible horns! ! A properly aligned slide will also produce a better"seal" over the entire length of the tubing. “I’ve been playing exclusively on carbon slides from Butler Trombones for over a year, and I won’t ever go back to a metal slide. In the following sections, we’ll examine how trombone slides are assembled, how to diagnose why they are not working properly and how to make the necessary repairs. Filed in February 13 (2018), the BUTLER TROMBONES covers Musical instruments, namely, brass instruments and parts for brass instruments; Musical instruments, namely, trombones and trombone parts, including slides, tuning valves, bells, and bell tubes; Trombones Our bass trombone inner slides (fits Bach 50) also feature a dual threaded cork barrel design allowing both course and fine threaded leadpipes without an adapter. Trombones of this size had previously been called bass trombones, although by this time, Olds had introduced the Super Olds Bass Trombone with a slide bore of .562 with the choice of one or two rotary valves. S.E. Slide is in demo condition with no visible signs of wear. Perhaps the price of admission is reading that it won’t dent or bend. And then my thoughts began to race and wonder, “If this small bore trombone sounds so great, could a bass trombone be made that sounds great, too?” Unwieldy slides greatly inhibited the free flow of music they were capable of producing. Qty in Cart: 0. To assist you in getting started, there are several basic assumptions you should adopt to be successful. Best of all I’ve started enjoying practicing again !”. All the resonance qualities that I love metal horns for – and have had problems with all-CF horns – are absent here. – Sound: this was the truly surprising & exciting part – I cannot determine ANY differences in sound quality from the stock metal slide. “It’s awesome! Each slide carries different sound characteristics to allow you to change the color of your Edwards to your ideal sound. When playing a trombone you can change the sound it produces just by how your lips vibrate when blowing-no fingers required. This is an added cost feature and can be ordered as a primary slide or an extra slide. This was not a usual “lightweight slide” of nickel that often sounds cheap and thin. Nothing. My slide is so much harder to move than all the other trombone players' in my band. And my current gig bag isn’t the safest, but very light and practical for subway travel. Either way, I can play my old Bach again and that’s reason enough to be happy about it. The full trombone package includes: One bell stem. Our slides are then carefully assembled, aligned, and stress relieved to assure the smooth, trouble-free action that has become the hallmark of S.E. It’s amazingly durable and won’t bend or dent. The first number indicates the bore of the upper leg of the slide; the second number the lower leg. I say it’s worth it.”. Price: $40.50 - $47.95. My mind was reeling. Butler Trombone Slide. gtag('js', new Date());Give us a call or email us from the button below to discuss your project! Contact a specialist at the Trombone Shop to discuss the right Lawler setup for you! These outer carbon fiber slides are made for me buy Dave Butler.
. I am a painfully picky player in this regard – I just had new (metal) tubes drawn for another horn, and I sent the slide back because even though the slide felt amazing and the construction was perfect, the tolerance between the inner and outer was JUST a micron or two too loose and it (incrementally) changed the blow. P50 Instructions. The small bore complete slide fits Conn 6H. Doug picked up his slide at the TCU trombone summit and liked it so much he played it on the concert that night! People on the gigs thus far have said it sounds good, I was really testing its boundaries with volume and speed, and it was taking it like a champ. It's interfering with my playing ability because there are parts of certain songs where you have to move your slide really fast. Highly recommended. In applying sound mechanical principals to slide design and a more conical design to the air column, he ushered in the new era of the trombone. Please take a look at our slide maintenance page. I will finish the run with this horn. I would absolutely recommend this slide to anyone who is looking to be more agile and effortless in their playing.”, Joe Jackson – Williams 6 – former lead trombone with the Airman of Note. Still resonants well and is 1/8th the weight of my regular weight original slide…plus all the parts fit perfectly with my original slide from the 60s, so it’s like four slide in one each with slightly different characteristics! His sound was immediately more full and resonant. – Air Feel: I cannot determine ANY differences in air feel from the stock metal slide. Bass trombone. Simple Straightening and Aligning of Trombone Hand Slides There is no trouble with trombones. Edwards single- and dual-bore bass trombone slides are available with yellow brass outer tubes and nickel sleeves and end crook. Thanks for the slide and for getting it to me so quickly! One of the exciting developments with Lawler Trombones has been Mr. Lawler's collaboration with Butler Trombones to create a custom carbon fiber handslide. by ShermanKNTO » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:40 pm 21 Replies 7143 Views Last post by elmsandr Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:08 pm Rotax Valves ... Fluted slides repairable? We are builders of carbon fiber trombones. Lawler trombones offers a .500 a dual bore .500/.508 and a .508 Butler trombones CF slide as an option on their horns. My 35 years of making custom brass instruments has led me to make a commercial style small bore tenor trombone for the pro player. Pricing is on my price page. Without even doing anything, the initial test felt like the best time I had done my slide…times 10! Yamaha Doug Yeo model bass trombone – Former bass trombonist with the Boston Symphony Orchestra for 30 years. I was able to get my horn fitted with it the morning we left for tour. Bass trombone outer slides are $900. Examples include: TB47•62: .547-.562 bore tenor or small bass handslide, TW25•47: .525-.547 bore tenor handslide with wide crook, A85•95: .485-.495 bore alto handslide with tuning in crook. Having an impervious outer slide calms my mood. With extra tubing, a large bell, and a wide bore, the bass trombone has a much lower, deeper sound than a tenor trombone. It doesn’t have the traditional slickness of a metal slide, but after playing it you just don’t care, because it’s SO damn fast. The slide of a trombone is a straight piece of tubing that is roughly 70 cm long and quite thin (0.25 mm thick). I love them! Trombone Slide Cleaning 101 P50 Instructions. When you are out in 5th,6th,7th position the weight of a metal slide puts strain on your left hand…plus… you tend to start using your right hand to help support the horn (a no-no). Go Here for the slide position chart for a tenor clef trombone with an F attachment trigger. window.dataLayer = window.dataLayer || ;
“Apart from getting an entire tongue transplant, fast passages seemed to be more fluid and natural. Dave is an awesome guy and very skillful, he listened patiently to my needs and made the perfect slides for me! It works great, so easy to play on! F.E. Olds, the master mechanic, realized the essence of the trombone was the facility of the slide. BerpBioLube for Trombone Handslides $ 7.95 An evolutionary formula of plant-based ingredients and beeswax combine to create a long-lasting, non-toxic and high quality lube. Bob Mintzer, Blood Sweat & Tears, Slide Hampton’s World of Trombones.- King 3B, “I like knowing the slide is gonna be where it needs to be every time. All this time, I had not re-creamed or watered the slide yet (partially because I had just lost my last spray bottle). Do know of any really good oils/creams for trombone slides? I am a chronic slide end-meets-music stand smasher. Alessi-Vacchiano. Air feel is identical to a stock, mid-60s Earl Williams 6. by Arrowhead » Sat May 25, 2019 6:21 am 1 Replies 841 Views Last post by … Trombone slides require cleaning much more often than the moving parts of most other instruments. Handslide models are specified by letters indicating instrument type (A = alto, T = tenor, B = bass) and crook width (no indication for standard, W = wide, B = bass crook), followed by bore size in inches (second two digits only), then tube material, weight, and crook material, if non standard. Real game-changer. Imagine the best time you’ve Superslicked your slide (to me it’s the law of averages if I get it right, or horrible overdosed on gunk). To say that I am enthusiastic about what Dave Butler has done would be a profound understatement. Completely new. Where the art of trombone making meets the 21st century! The price for custom outer slides for small bore and .547 bore is $850 US. Always interested in new things, I pulled a small shank mouthpiece out of my bag and gave it a try. The price for a complete custom 6h slide with carbon outer is $1,600 US (this slide can also fit Edwards horns). Learning the trombone is about to change forever… Now, musicians can see and feel exactly where the positions are! This test is deceptive, because the feel is so different from a metal slide. Trombone Tuning Slides. Butler Trombones Play testing C10s and C12s (and beer drinking) on Friday afternoon with the guys and girls (Don Bozman builder of slides and Julie Gray all around trombone artisan builder and player!) So fast in fact: this show I’m playing requires a lot of fast 1st-to-6th and 7th-to-2nd technique which I normally use a trigger on (was using an Elkhart Conn 79H), and this is a straight horn and I had NO problem cleanly playing the phrases. Slides with no additional markings are standard weight, with yellow-brass tubes, nickel-silver sleeves, and a nickel-silver crook. One of the other guys in the section could fit it straight onto his horn. “I must say I am LOVING my brand new Butler Trombones carbon fiber slide for my Conn 6H bell. Well done, David Butler. No case. Choose Options Quick view. After all, every job requires that you know something in order – Feel: I usually determine this by moving the slide slowly, simulating teensy-weensy adjustments. Here is JT with the Dallas Horns playing a Butler trombones all carbon fiber outer slide. Simple Straightening and Aligning of Trombone Hand Slides. However there’s another coincidental/incidental benefit: I was expecting some sound loss with the lightweight slide. Trombone Buddy’s unique patented mechanism adds a “Notch” sensation to precise adjustable visual markers. The slide tubing of S.E. Two bell flares. The slide is so light that it requires minimal effort to switch directions, which really helps with my fast playing. My slide arm can move much more independently from the rest of body. Go Here for the slide position chart for a treble clef trombone with an F attachment trigger. The slide tubing of S.E. One note on lubrication. This is the largest Super Olds trombone with tone band that I have come across with a 9" bell rim diameter and .500"/.525" slide bore. To produce low notes, vibrate your lips slowly; the higher the note you want to play, the quicker you will need to vibrate your lips. Once received from Dave I build our inner slide to these carbon fiber slides so that they are as exact as can be. Enough said. This normally is not a very expensive adjustment that can be made by your instrument repairman. Of course, playing on a traditional slide is not really a problem for me (I’m just high maintenance) but I guess because I like to constantly push my limits of what I can play, it’s really great to have a slide that will help me play freer. Alessi-Vacchiano mutes are designed and crafted to perform with superior intonation and respond well in all registers. Please note: These slides are built perfectly parallel between tubes, however every horn is slightly different in the width between tubes and most likely will require an adjustment of width between your inner slides. We have built custom outer carbon fiber slides for Bach, Conn, Kanstul, Shires, Williams, M&W, Yamaha, Edwards, Rath, Lawler, Cortouis and King. The ID of the outer tube is .540 for the .500 bore horn and .560 for the .508-09 bore horn. Shires handslides is drawn in house, to precise tolerances. Alessi-Vacchiano Tenor Trombone Straight Mute. The slide tubes are chrome plated nickel silver. I thought to myself, “This is not a toy.” What shocked me was that it sounded like – well – a trombone. In addition, Lawler has partnered with Butler Trombones to offer carbon fiber outer slides in .500" and .508" bores. Flawless construction. Quick view. I have tried three different oils and 1 cream but they just seem to make my slide stickier. In a small shop in Flat Creek Tennessee The Lawler Trombone is made by one guy one at a time from start to finish. We also feature our own water key design. Playing in the staff is like playing a tank now. This trombone sounded great, holding it was virtually effortless, and moving the slide was something completely new. Congrats on a great product ! Thank you, and stay healthy. The soprano trombone is pitched to B-flat but an octave higher than the tenor trombone. They had a display of small bore jazz trombones made out of carbon fiber. The slides are very durable, a big and heavy trombone case fell on my side and nothing happened to it, not a scratch! Maybe in terms of its sound it has lightened up a bit. 214.356.8002. Through all positions it’s light and just floats… The repair guy really was impressed… then there was a pause and he asked…”Does it dent”… and I said no… he got a forlorn look and I patted him on the shoulder.”, “I got the slide and I was amazed by it. Our outer slides feature all carbon fiber construction including the crook and brace. Use a good quality valve oil, preferably something on the heavier/thicker side and apply several drops to the top of the inner slides just like you would with a liquid lubricant. Peter Dahlgren, lead trombone player in Norrbotten Big Band and Stockholm Jazz Orchestra – complete 6h custom slide, “I got the slide today and used it today at rehearsal. BASIC ASSUMPTIONS . So, … Go Here for the slide position chart for a treble clef standard straight trombone. It kind of transformed my old Conn into a very modern instrument.”, Dave Panichi – Buddy Rich – lead bone 82-85. The Yamaha YSL-354 Tenor Trombone for Beginners and Students is a standard Bb tenor trombone. The open wrap design goes seamlessly with the Schiller Axial Flow F Trigger. In other words, this slide changes my preferences. The price for a complete custom 6h slide with carbon outer is $1,600 US (this slide can also fit Edwards horns). Lawler custom lightweight hard shell case. No “glassy feel” here – obviously – because we’re not evaluating metal-on-metal with some intermittent viscous fluid. I don't generally recommend using oil for trombone slides, but it is an option if you're caught without anything else. The Schiller American Heritage Axial Flow Trombone is preferred by concert and symphonic players. A plunger shaped like the inside of the slide tube and a rubber O ring seal. Spurling PL. As a point of reference these slides weigh 65 to 85 grams depending on model. I think ballad playing is a little smoother & creamier due to the mechanical superiority of the slide. It projects, resonates and rings just like any good mid-1960s Williams. A complete Bach 50 slide is $1,800. I fully expected it to sound like a glorified pBone, a high tech plastic trombone. A metal slide has heft, which gives it inertial potential, and in an optimum metal slide allows for a glassy feel that provides little drag. This standard, clear-lacquered, yellow brass, .500-inch bore, tenor model has most of the features and qualities of Yamaha professional models, but at an affordable price. Go Here for the slide position chart for a bass trombone Bb-F-Gb. $40.50 - $47.95. The sound is certainly quite credible: Qty in Cart: 0. Add to Cart Quick view. The Attitude, the Authority, the American Trombone Sound. “I’m crazy about your slide and am really looking forward to the bell and tuning slide and seeing how that goes.” It also features a compression spring for more spring life. Add to Cart. Perhaps that was the initial goal of the slide. Trombone Buddy is … It is generally acceptable to have a gap of between .01 and .007 between your stocking and the ID of the outer tube. Carbon fiber slides for trombones have been available for several years from a few manufacturers. Shires trombone tuning slides are engineered with a unique, smooth, double-radius design. Before I was actively holding back to not crack notes in the staff but the slide really lets me rip. I realized right away that the hand slide weighed virtually nothing and that the inertia caused by moving my normal brass slide was nearly eliminated. – Speed: Easily the fastest slide I’ve ever played in a 42-year playing career. The whole thing with this slide is speed, not slickness, and adding anything diminishes the speed just a bit – which is the whole point of the slide. So far I’m loving it, enough so that I’m finally practicing daily because it’s fun to play!”, “here’s the feedback on the slide…It is #$@% great…LOL… one advantage I didn’t even think of. It sounded like a trombone. Demo Conn SL4747 Trombone Handslide in lacquer. 5 shows in and it’s already settled sound-wise, I can hear everything and I’m getting point to my sound when I want it. And you know what? They are just another job, no harder nor trickier than any other job that requires a little skill to do. Our slides are then carefully assembled, aligned, and stress relieved to assure the smooth, trouble-free action that has become the hallmark of S.E. I don’t know how many ounces it is, but it can’t weigh but 1/4 (or less) what the stock brass outer slide does. Subtotal: Choose Options. It’s exactly what I wanted and I have zero regrets in buying it. Examples include: T47: .547-inch (large) bore tenor handslide with tenor crook—centered sound and feel, TW47: .547-inch (large) bore tenor handslide with wide crook—our most popular design, combines efficient feel and response with orchestral breadth of sound—very easy to adapt to any playing situation, TB47: .547-inch (large) bore tenor handslide with bass crook—for players desiring an expansive sound and feel, T25: .525-inch (medium) bore tenor handslide, TW25: .525-inch (medium) bore tenor handslide with wide crook, T85: .485-inch (small) bore tenor handslide, T00: .500-inch(small) bore tenor handslide, T08: .508-inch (small) bore tenor handslide. They combine the best characteristics of single- and double-radius tuning slides in terms of timbre, response, and intonation.
But something about it has warmed up the low register, and the dreaded 5th, 6th and 7th position notes in the mid register seem to be more resonant, something I’ve been fighting with for a long time. My new carbon fiber parts as installed on my YAMAHA YBL-822G bass trombone have given me an instrument that is highly responsive and lightweight but has a sound I would expect to be produced by my fully brass and nickel bass trombone. Trombone … The gap between the outer slide and inner slide has a radius of only around 0.1 mm. Single bore slides have a clear sound and can be more articulate than dual bore. Not to mention all of the outer positions are much more accessible which gives me a lot more choices as an improviser. Explore the freedom of of an ultra light, extremely responsive instrument that allows you to express your music without stress. Received the slide yesterday afternoon, played it for 20 minutes at home then took it to the show: – Weight: Obviously this outer is the lightest I’ve ever played. I was stunned. Nothing like that here. Learn More Tactile positions. One hand slide. For rich powerful open sound in all the registers durable nickel silver inner and outer slides. Based on playing it about three hours yesterday, it’s safe to say this is my new primary gig setup that I will use on all but large-bore gigs, no question. We’re evaluating straight-on carbon fiber on metal. ”, Ray Mason, Taylor Swift, Laddy Antebellum – complete 6h custom slide. All slides come with three interchangeable leadpipes. And then this: the weight of the instrument was miniscule. When you are blowing be sure not to press the mouthpiece firmly to your lips. And that’s exactly what I was hoping it would do. I guess what I’m getting to with this whole Speed/Slickness analysis is that the classic slide feel is out the door with this one. A quote from Doug’s blog: Other options are available: LW: Lightweight—no sleeves—quicker response, more open, brilliant sound, N: Nickel-silver outer tubes—brilliant, articulate sound, G: Gold-brass outer tubes—warm sound, rounded articulations), YC: Yellow-brass crook—warmer, rounder sound and articulations, For example: TB47NLW denotes a Tenor handslide with Bass (nickel silver)crook, .547-inch bore, and outer tubes made of Nickel-silver with no sleeves (i.e., lightweight), 260 Hopping Brook Road, Holliston, MA, 01746, United States. Here is a prototype made by trombonist David Butler: A pre-market Butler carbon-fiber Trombone. Our inner slide features a curved hand brace and threaded leadpipe. The Slide Doctor is taking the necessary precautions to ensure safe receiving, slide setups, and shipping of all my customers slides, as well as any Great Slide product that is ordered.